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Of course not. We are country of laws. The constitution provides for a presidential election only once every 6 years. EVERYONE should abide by it.

Even assuming there is a problem with Arroyo, dapat maghintay sila sa 2010. May eleksyon naman sa 2010. Hindi na naman tayo nasa martial law.

I know many people who did not vote for GMA. But I only know of two persons who approve of it! One is a trapo with connections to the Trillanes group and the other, a priest. But then I don't know any leftists nor soldiers, which, I believe, is the mass base of the group. GMA is the President of the Philippines and everyone should respect her authority.

-- Edited by Romeo at 17:06, 2007-12-13

Hindi ako bumoto kay Gloria. Pero bakit pa manggugulo na alam naman natin walang mangyari diyan. Masira lang ang ekonomiya natin. Hindi naman mananalo iyong grupo ni Trillanes. Mahina at bobo sila. At kung manalo man sila, wala naman silang maibigay na mas magandang kinabukasan sa Pilipino. Sa tingin ko, pare-pareho lang sila. Kung may diperensya man, konti lang.

What the rebels are doing is bad for the Filipino economy. Arroyo has done an excellent job of it, too. And these people who think they can run the Philippines better than her... hindi naman sila marunong magpatakbo sa ekonomiya... ang pinakamalaki nating problema. Mga walang hiya!

There are a lot of serious problems under President Arroyo's dispensation and government bureaucracy. But I do not approve of the means used by Trillanes and his friends to institute change in the government. It is unconsitutional and calls for violence. Further, I do not believe that replacing President Arroyo with Trillanes' leftist-priests-trapo-military group is the solution to it.

Hang Trillanes, Lim,... The geriatric Padre Damasos and the wannabe, Guingona, send them to muslim middle east to serve an imam for the rest of their lives! And have them all pay for the damage to the hotel, employees' lost pay, and other losses businesses and the economy suffered.

Everyone suffered so much under martial law and paid a high price to get out freedom back. And we are suppose to surrender it to Trillanes, Guingona and the bishops on a silver platter? You have to be bribed with some power-sharing deal or plain crazy to approve of the attempted coup.

-- Edited by pinky at 16:55, 2007-12-15

Si Erap ang ipapalit nila? Di ba sila din ang nagpatalsik kay Erap at pinalitan nila kay Gloria? Ngayon, pagkatapos nanalo si Gloria sa eleksyon, gusto na naman nilang ibalik si Erap. Naloko na ang mga taong 'to!

May alzheimer na yata si Guingona at mga arsobispos. Hindi na tayo nasa martial law. May eleksyon sa 2010. Maghintay kayo!

Trillanes is martial law!!

It would have been hilarious had they not exposed people and our soldiers to danger. And Guingona and Nemenzo, shame on you! Shame on you! As to the Padre Damasos- kapal mukha talaga ang mga bakla na iyan!

OK. I think our forum needs rebels. So come on in, guys.

Cane these guys in public and throw them in jail! They like the Singaporean model, so give it to them!

GMA corrupt! Ipababa na!

MANILA (AFP) — Soaring rice and oil prices could pose a threat to Philippine national security, particularly through communist rebel efforts to incite riots, a senior military official warned on Friday.

Adaza's been going around for over 2 years now trying to drum up support for the forcible ouster of PGMA. That's no secret. Many are direct witness to it, including apparently a few in media who appear to be echoing him or at least some parts of the spin, although some may be hearing it from 3^rd parties.

Adaza appears to be involved in the Manila Pen incident and the new power grab plot discovered only a few days ago through the complaint by Attorney Fortun and the client he shared with Adaza. He seems to be the link between the trapos and the Trillanes group, and the UP circle with leftist contacts, including the CPP.

The initial plan was to use Erap in the power grab, but that fizzled with the pardon. So the Manila Pen thing happened instead. After that fiasco, the group switched tactics again. The scuttlebutt was that the rice problem was going to be used to incite protests and riots to justify a military armed rebellion against PGMA. The plan is very similar to the previous ones. It explains why Principe, a high ranking CPP member and former UP student, was in town at that critical moment, allegedly billeted by trapos in the opposition. Together with rogues soldiers, the CPP was to be an instrument in creating fear and mayhem, including the infiltration of legitimate protests to provoke violence.

This group has one and only one goal - putting themselves in power by establishing a military junta. Essentially, martial law. If they succeed, you can forget elections in 2010. It will not happen.

Old men are pulling the strings here, I think. Mainly, the trapos who have little chance of ever being elected president or bypassed by Marcos and martial law together with the then young aspiring overly-ambitious military men who lost out with EDSA1 and the restoration of democracy. There also appears to be a strong UP connection. As well as leftist and CPP components.

There are a couple or so retired generals behind the scenes, too. Fortunately, judging from the Manila Pen fiasco, they lack support and are unlikely to succeed. But I think it is best that the government stay vigilant, just in case.

-- Edited by cka at 05:31, 2008-07-14

Nakakatakot naman.

nope. i do not think this is a gimmick. adaza has a big mouth. he brags about it.

i heard about manila pen plot long before it happened. i heard about plot to exploit the issue of soaring prices over 4 months ago na. always coming from adaza daw. i thought nobody would take him seriously so i did not post warning earlier. but keep seeing the things he say come true. including general timeline.

the story i heard was similar to that of cka above. Except there was no mention of cpp/npa. instead adaza made insinuations of anarchy and civil unrest to justify military intervention. i thought that meant they intended to use students and others in legitimate protests. but the cpp/npa participation angle seems logical and believable with the unlikely to be coincidental appearance and arrest of principe about the time of the last coup. and infiltrating legitimate protests and inciting and provoking violence within the ranks was a joma tactic in sixties. adaza also has very close ties with UP leftists/communists leaders who are invariably around his age and older with contact to cpp/npa and other leftist organizations. this is a thing with a few old men in UP for some reason. but the youth may be used as unwitting pawns.

the plot is ridiculous and unlikely to suceed, but the plotters are serious about it. people may get hurt. this group is very determined and has no compunction re the use of violence. they are desperate because 2010 is getting closer. the next president is likely to be much stronger and more popular than GMA. they are getting old and GMA may be their last chance.



-- Edited by blabbermouth at 14:17, 2008-07-17

extortion attempt to finance a coup is believable. adaza likes shortcuts. fast rise to power with coup. extortion fast money. consistent. makes sense. but ultimate goal is power. adaza crazy for it and obsessed in grabbing power through coup. he wants to be THE top guy.

Tips to the gov't are OK. But let's not forget that the gov't still has to prove its case against Adaza. Kahit na kung anu-ano ang pinagsasabi niya, ibig sabihin lang niyan mayabang siya.  Kailangan pa rin patunayan ng gobyerno na guilty siya and the presumption of innocence of an accused applies to him until then.

Lumipat na lang sila sa Singapore! Napakagulo ng mga gago.